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2/2 So that some are lit and others are not. I see myself in mass looking to the side and seeing myself attending at another time. All masses being one same mass. Interconnected. The more one misses, the more... gaps... are on the tapestry. It weakens it. Makes it uncertain, perilous.

I don't subscribe to the idea that sins are sins by nature, but rather by their resulting effect on the sinner. I try to find coherence to the church's teachings and dogmas.

@Gabriel

Your last few posts have been deep and thought provoking. I can tell you have thought about the Faith a lot. There are several points I feel we could discuss, but I will the following line.

> I don't subscribe to the idea that sins are sins by nature, but rather by their
> resulting effect on the sinner.

I think there are some actions that are sinful by their nature, but that's only one aspect of sin.

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@Gabriel

As I'm sure you know, to be a mortal sin, in addition to being a seriously sinful act by nature, the person committing the act must understand the sinful nature of the act and still freely will to do it. So the person's interior state is more important in determining the sinful nature of an act, but we can't ignore the nature of the act itself.

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@Gabriel

But I have noted in myself the tendency to go from concern over whether a particular sin is mortal or venial to the general attitude that if I am only guilty of venial sins that I am basically OK. I've come to understand that this attitude is harmful to the state of my soul because it makes light of the suffering Our Lord accepted to save us even from our lesser sins, ...

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@Gabriel

... it makes me too tolerant of my failures to love my brothers and sisters as Our Lord loves them, it causes me to delay seeking the grace of Reconciliation, and it is an offense to the Lord when I receive Him in the Eucharist.

I think we should fear committing any sin. The distinction between mortal and venial sin is over-emphasized.

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@Gabriel Oops. Previous post was #4 in the series (and end).

@papa

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I agree. I guess what I meant to point out is that the sin of missing mass doesn't, at first, seem THAT sinful. If we were forbidden from touching our noses, I think we can agree that that would be silly. Even by just considering it sinful, it would dilute the seriousness of the word "sin". Likewise, it seems out of place that missing mass is considered a sin, worse yet, a "mortal" sin, whatever significance one may give that phrase.

@papa

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So I had been searching for a way to justify the Church's stance on the issue. I mean, I assume I am wrong in feeling/thinking it shouldn't be a sin, so I strive to align my thinking so that I come to agree with the Church, so that I can feel guilt, and desire to comply, so that it makes sense to comply. I feel it is my responsibility to do so. And that it can't be "because the Church says so".

@Gabriel That is an admirable attitude. I don't know the answer to your dilemma, but I am sure God will lead you to His Truth.

@Gabriel @papa
When I became Catholic from a sometimes go to church Protestant, I struggled with this (among other things) too.

Our Lord said "do this in memory of me" If we love Him, we will keep His commandments. He gave us this at the last supper, finally making clear what He spoke of in John 6.

Our Lord also gave us His Church. It's big and says a lot of stuff, some contradictory. Some stuff Holy Mother Church says infallibly including our obligation for worship. Lest we be confused, she is quite clear on it. So there is that too.

Finally Mass offers us the opportunity to participate in Our Lord's sacrifice. It is the sublime prayer of the Church. We can not get any closer to God, Heaven, the angels and saints than there.

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